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	<title>Comments on: No audit, now what Mayor Johnson? Whatever you do, don&#8217;t ask Ray Tretheway</title>
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	<description>Hey everyone, where are all those jobs?</description>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.joesacramento.com/2009/05/17/sacramento-crime-kevin-johnson-ray-tretheway/comment-page-1/#comment-7890</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 05:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot; &gt;Keith S: I hope at some point you elaborate on that, Joe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I apologize for not being explicit. 

When I say &quot;lacking thick skin&quot; I am referring to the perception that she gets bent out of shape when people challenge her thinking or approach. 

When I say &quot;neutral disposition&quot; I am referring to the perception that she can be intolerant of opinions that are not delivered with the political spin it seems like she is most comfortable with. 

But again, these are merely perceptions based on limited interactions. They can easily be changed.  There is plenty of time. The first inning hasn&#039;t even started yet. :)

Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="" ><p>Keith S: I hope at some point you elaborate on that, Joe.</p></blockquote>
<p>I apologize for not being explicit. </p>
<p>When I say &#8220;lacking thick skin&#8221; I am referring to the perception that she gets bent out of shape when people challenge her thinking or approach. </p>
<p>When I say &#8220;neutral disposition&#8221; I am referring to the perception that she can be intolerant of opinions that are not delivered with the political spin it seems like she is most comfortable with. </p>
<p>But again, these are merely perceptions based on limited interactions. They can easily be changed.  There is plenty of time. The first inning hasn&#8217;t even started yet. <img src='http://www.joesacramento.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Peace!</p>
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		<title>By: Community Dis-Organizer</title>
		<link>http://www.joesacramento.com/2009/05/17/sacramento-crime-kevin-johnson-ray-tretheway/comment-page-1/#comment-7886</link>
		<dc:creator>Community Dis-Organizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 03:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashby is not qualified to run for D1... She has not paid her dues.  She has never had a real job.  Besides building a small but rabid following in North Natomas in order to run for office, she has done nothing for the District besides promote herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashby is not qualified to run for D1&#8230; She has not paid her dues.  She has never had a real job.  Besides building a small but rabid following in North Natomas in order to run for office, she has done nothing for the District besides promote herself.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Sharward</title>
		<link>http://www.joesacramento.com/2009/05/17/sacramento-crime-kevin-johnson-ray-tretheway/comment-page-1/#comment-7829</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Sharward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose &quot;leadership&quot; is in the eye of the beholder... But in my opinion, true leadership is having a suite of abilities and a consistent track record of using them: listen, observe, understand, reflect, relate, empathize, envision, express, articulate, advocate, focus, activate, inspire, empower, collaborate, respect, seek consensus, excite, affect, improve, excel, and ultimately deliver to those counting on you. 

Angelique is a president of a successful neighborhood association, yes, and that certainly is good practical experience for a city council job... However, having that title in and of itself does not demonstrate true community-based leadership. It is what she has done while holding that title that demonstrates leadership, like how she partnered with a neighboring association&#039;s officer to organize and convene a roomful of dozens of representatives of neighborhood associations, homeowners&#039; associations, businesses, schools, churches, and agencies for a very productive leadership forum on crime and safety at a time that Natomas was experiencing a dramatic and disproportional increase in almost all types of crime -- that is when and where the Natomas Crime and Safety Leadership Team was born, and tremendous progress has occurred since then as a result, including the opening of the Natomas Police &amp; Community Resource Center, a volunteer-run stop-gap for our lack of a police substation and community center. Another example is the tremendous progress she made on the North Natomas Finance Plan that Tretheway was desperately trying to ram through before the community insisted on applying the brakes to ensure the plan was sustainable and truly prioritized the community&#039;s expressed needs, now and in the future. (That&#039;s a huge story -- one very much worth telling, hopefully soon...) There are many more examples -- too many to list here. 

And though it hardly qualifies as dignifying a response, I will state for the record that Angelique is most certainly not an &quot;elitist&quot; -- or any other ugly &quot;ist&quot; that some dare to imply. Those kinds of comments only go to show the ignorance a few people have about her as a person. I&#039;m confident that such nonsense will get drowned out and/or ignored by those who know better. 

Finally...

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Joe&quot;&gt;. . . I think it is great [Angelique] is running. She has definitely fought for her neighbors on many occasions, and I do believe she cares about the Natomas community. I trust she has a sizable flock of followers. Is she the right person to lead the district? I am not so sure. I have not observed in her the type of thick skin and neutral disposition *I* believe the position requires . . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hope at some point you elaborate on that, Joe. Maybe she has thicker skin and more of a neutral disposition (whatever that means...?) than you realize. Or, maybe the job requires a thinner skin at times -- a dynamic skin, if you will -- because I think thickness of skin can, if unchecked, lead to being &quot;out of touch&quot; -- something I often hear describing our incumbent politicians. The ability to processing input deeply when necessary can be a real asset. Something to think about... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose &#8220;leadership&#8221; is in the eye of the beholder&#8230; But in my opinion, true leadership is having a suite of abilities and a consistent track record of using them: listen, observe, understand, reflect, relate, empathize, envision, express, articulate, advocate, focus, activate, inspire, empower, collaborate, respect, seek consensus, excite, affect, improve, excel, and ultimately deliver to those counting on you. </p>
<p>Angelique is a president of a successful neighborhood association, yes, and that certainly is good practical experience for a city council job&#8230; However, having that title in and of itself does not demonstrate true community-based leadership. It is what she has done while holding that title that demonstrates leadership, like how she partnered with a neighboring association&#8217;s officer to organize and convene a roomful of dozens of representatives of neighborhood associations, homeowners&#8217; associations, businesses, schools, churches, and agencies for a very productive leadership forum on crime and safety at a time that Natomas was experiencing a dramatic and disproportional increase in almost all types of crime &#8212; that is when and where the Natomas Crime and Safety Leadership Team was born, and tremendous progress has occurred since then as a result, including the opening of the Natomas Police &amp; Community Resource Center, a volunteer-run stop-gap for our lack of a police substation and community center. Another example is the tremendous progress she made on the North Natomas Finance Plan that Tretheway was desperately trying to ram through before the community insisted on applying the brakes to ensure the plan was sustainable and truly prioritized the community&#8217;s expressed needs, now and in the future. (That&#8217;s a huge story &#8212; one very much worth telling, hopefully soon&#8230;) There are many more examples &#8212; too many to list here. </p>
<p>And though it hardly qualifies as dignifying a response, I will state for the record that Angelique is most certainly not an &#8220;elitist&#8221; &#8212; or any other ugly &#8220;ist&#8221; that some dare to imply. Those kinds of comments only go to show the ignorance a few people have about her as a person. I&#8217;m confident that such nonsense will get drowned out and/or ignored by those who know better. </p>
<p>Finally&#8230;</p>
<blockquote cite="Joe"><p>. . . I think it is great [Angelique] is running. She has definitely fought for her neighbors on many occasions, and I do believe she cares about the Natomas community. I trust she has a sizable flock of followers. Is she the right person to lead the district? I am not so sure. I have not observed in her the type of thick skin and neutral disposition *I* believe the position requires . . .</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope at some point you elaborate on that, Joe. Maybe she has thicker skin and more of a neutral disposition (whatever that means&#8230;?) than you realize. Or, maybe the job requires a thinner skin at times &#8212; a dynamic skin, if you will &#8212; because I think thickness of skin can, if unchecked, lead to being &#8220;out of touch&#8221; &#8212; something I often hear describing our incumbent politicians. The ability to processing input deeply when necessary can be a real asset. Something to think about&#8230; <img src='http://www.joesacramento.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Community Dis-Organizer</title>
		<link>http://www.joesacramento.com/2009/05/17/sacramento-crime-kevin-johnson-ray-tretheway/comment-page-1/#comment-7826</link>
		<dc:creator>Community Dis-Organizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 00:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey NCL, why is it so important that people post under their own names?  

Joe has offered the community a place to voice their opinions.  Some of us fear retaliation for our views.  Given that this City is controlled by very vindictive far lefties, we may not feel comfortable speaking up, some of us have to work side by side with these lefties.  Our opinions must be kept in the closet out of fear that we will pay for our views.

Take a look at what happened to the Director of the Music Circus for supporting Prop 8.  He was driven out of his job.

It&#039;s rather ironic that people who have different opinions than the lefties need to hide in the closet isn&#039;t it?  But the Left has always had double standards.

BTW,  I see you post under an anonymous name as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey NCL, why is it so important that people post under their own names?  </p>
<p>Joe has offered the community a place to voice their opinions.  Some of us fear retaliation for our views.  Given that this City is controlled by very vindictive far lefties, we may not feel comfortable speaking up, some of us have to work side by side with these lefties.  Our opinions must be kept in the closet out of fear that we will pay for our views.</p>
<p>Take a look at what happened to the Director of the Music Circus for supporting Prop 8.  He was driven out of his job.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s rather ironic that people who have different opinions than the lefties need to hide in the closet isn&#8217;t it?  But the Left has always had double standards.</p>
<p>BTW,  I see you post under an anonymous name as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.joesacramento.com/2009/05/17/sacramento-crime-kevin-johnson-ray-tretheway/comment-page-1/#comment-7821</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NCL, he&#039;s not exactly anonymous. I think the majority of people who read here know his identity. I won&#039;t speak out of turn and divulge his identity, but I bet he will tell you who he is without hesitation. He&#039;s hardly one to shy away from confrontation--which is one of his many qualities. As for the relevancy of your post in this thread, it really is no big deal to me. Thanks for posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NCL, he&#8217;s not exactly anonymous. I think the majority of people who read here know his identity. I won&#8217;t speak out of turn and divulge his identity, but I bet he will tell you who he is without hesitation. He&#8217;s hardly one to shy away from confrontation&#8211;which is one of his many qualities. As for the relevancy of your post in this thread, it really is no big deal to me. Thanks for posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Natomas Community Leader</title>
		<link>http://www.joesacramento.com/2009/05/17/sacramento-crime-kevin-johnson-ray-tretheway/comment-page-1/#comment-7818</link>
		<dc:creator>Natomas Community Leader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes one a Enemy of Politicians? Posting on a blog anonymously?

I bet the politicians are shaking in their boots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes one a Enemy of Politicians? Posting on a blog anonymously?</p>
<p>I bet the politicians are shaking in their boots.</p>
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		<title>By: Natomas Community Leader</title>
		<link>http://www.joesacramento.com/2009/05/17/sacramento-crime-kevin-johnson-ray-tretheway/comment-page-1/#comment-7817</link>
		<dc:creator>Natomas Community Leader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People make themselves community leaders by their actions. Years and years of doing what is right for the community makes one a community leader.

Unless you know of some guide to becoming a community leader. I would think those standards would first be applied to politicians, which they are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People make themselves community leaders by their actions. Years and years of doing what is right for the community makes one a community leader.</p>
<p>Unless you know of some guide to becoming a community leader. I would think those standards would first be applied to politicians, which they are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Natomas Community Leader</title>
		<link>http://www.joesacramento.com/2009/05/17/sacramento-crime-kevin-johnson-ray-tretheway/comment-page-1/#comment-7816</link>
		<dc:creator>Natomas Community Leader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, such drama. The post was attached in the wrong article. It was also posted it the proper place attached to the proper article....get over it.

Mystery solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, such drama. The post was attached in the wrong article. It was also posted it the proper place attached to the proper article&#8230;.get over it.</p>
<p>Mystery solved.</p>
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		<title>By: Enemy of Politicians</title>
		<link>http://www.joesacramento.com/2009/05/17/sacramento-crime-kevin-johnson-ray-tretheway/comment-page-1/#comment-7808</link>
		<dc:creator>Enemy of Politicians</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again.... who made them community leaders?  Oh.. so if you proclaim yourself a community leader you are?

Ashby is the President of a Homeowners Association in Creekside...I suspect she may have been voted in with 12-15 votes. That would be easy to confirm i suspect.  From what I have seen, all the Creekside crew is interested in is to exclude people they feel are less desirable from North Natomas.   One of their most vocal fights and claim to fame is to prevent Goodwill from moving into North Natomas because they felt it would attract less desirable folks to North Natomas. They issued a booklet to the community that was racially charged and was full of Willie Horton type of photo&#039;s of young black kids.  I for one do not want a council person who&#039;s only claim to fame is being an elitist who represents the concerns of a very small but vocal homeowners association in North Natomas who&#039;s main concern in is protecting property values and excluding those they do not care for.

Ashby needs to pay her dues if she wants to work her way up to the Council.  She has children, and wants to be active in the schools, she should run for the school board and/or sit on some city commissions before she thinks she is ready to be a city council person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again&#8230;. who made them community leaders?  Oh.. so if you proclaim yourself a community leader you are?</p>
<p>Ashby is the President of a Homeowners Association in Creekside&#8230;I suspect she may have been voted in with 12-15 votes. That would be easy to confirm i suspect.  From what I have seen, all the Creekside crew is interested in is to exclude people they feel are less desirable from North Natomas.   One of their most vocal fights and claim to fame is to prevent Goodwill from moving into North Natomas because they felt it would attract less desirable folks to North Natomas. They issued a booklet to the community that was racially charged and was full of Willie Horton type of photo&#8217;s of young black kids.  I for one do not want a council person who&#8217;s only claim to fame is being an elitist who represents the concerns of a very small but vocal homeowners association in North Natomas who&#8217;s main concern in is protecting property values and excluding those they do not care for.</p>
<p>Ashby needs to pay her dues if she wants to work her way up to the Council.  She has children, and wants to be active in the schools, she should run for the school board and/or sit on some city commissions before she thinks she is ready to be a city council person.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.joesacramento.com/2009/05/17/sacramento-crime-kevin-johnson-ray-tretheway/comment-page-1/#comment-7803</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot; &gt;Keith wrote: &quot;Those closest to her are going to pay the price with her.  &quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hi Keith. Gosh you make it sound like she is running for governor ! I don&#039;t think personal attacks are cool; but on the other hand I am proponent of uninhibited dialog, so it&#039;s tough for me to censor comments. 

I will reiterate for the record here, if you have beef with someone, then feel free to let us know, but please refrain from profanity and/or personal attacks. You can absolutely make your point (and make a lot of people really mad) and never use a single personal attack or curse word. Ask me how  :) 

Either way I think it is great AA is running. She has definitely fought for her neighbors on many occasions, and I do believe she cares about the Natomas community. I trust she has a sizable flock of followers. Is she the right person to lead the district? I am not so sure. I have not observed in her the type of thick skin and neutral disposition  *I* believe the position requires, but I&#039;m just one man with one opinion.

In any event, it&#039;s going to be a dandy aint it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="" ><p>Keith wrote: &#8220;Those closest to her are going to pay the price with her.  &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>Hi Keith. Gosh you make it sound like she is running for governor ! I don&#8217;t think personal attacks are cool; but on the other hand I am proponent of uninhibited dialog, so it&#8217;s tough for me to censor comments. </p>
<p>I will reiterate for the record here, if you have beef with someone, then feel free to let us know, but please refrain from profanity and/or personal attacks. You can absolutely make your point (and make a lot of people really mad) and never use a single personal attack or curse word. Ask me how  <img src='http://www.joesacramento.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Either way I think it is great AA is running. She has definitely fought for her neighbors on many occasions, and I do believe she cares about the Natomas community. I trust she has a sizable flock of followers. Is she the right person to lead the district? I am not so sure. I have not observed in her the type of thick skin and neutral disposition  *I* believe the position requires, but I&#8217;m just one man with one opinion.</p>
<p>In any event, it&#8217;s going to be a dandy aint it?</p>
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